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June 30 Workgroup Meeting - Shared screen with speaker view
Jimi Gilroy
55:09
Welcome to today’s California Data System Workgroup meeting. The meeting materials including the Participant Agenda and the Background Paper can be found in the Meeting Materials link under the June 30, 2020 heading on our website on this page - https://cadatasystem.wested.org/meeting-information/workgroupThis meeting will be recorded for transcription and viewing purposes. By attending the meeting, you are consenting to have your audio and video comments recorded.
Jimi Gilroy
57:32
Speaking: Rigel Spencer Massaro
Jimi Gilroy
01:00:06
Speaking: Ed Sullivan, CSU
A: Joy Bonaguro
01:00:54
Good overview Ed!
A: Joy Bonaguro
01:03:46
I have to step out for 15 minutes but really enjoyed working with the subgroup on this topic.
Jimi Gilroy
01:06:26
Comment from Jeanne Wolfe, DOL
A: Edward Sullivan
01:06:54
I think the employment idea subsumes the concepts of training and apprenticeship... could live with the change... but not sure it adds greatly as shown
Jimi Gilroy
01:07:10
Question from Chris Furgiuele, UC
Jimi Gilroy
01:07:16
Speaking: Jeanne Wolfe, DOL
Channa Hewawickrama
01:07:17
vocational trainings?
Jimi Gilroy
01:07:50
For members of the public, later this morning we will have breakout sessions by topic. Please let me know which group you would like to be assigned to as an observer from the list below. Those without a room assignment will be placed in the Zoom Guests room.Group One: New State AgencyGroup Two: Join Powers Agreement(JPA)Group Three: Nonprofit AuxiliaryGroup Four: Public Private Partnership
A: Amy Fong
01:08:38
+1 @Michele and @Ed
Gavin Payne
01:09:59
Cannot the words “education” and “employment” taken together be interpreted to include training?
Jimi Gilroy
01:11:19
Comment from: Amy Fong, CSIS
Jimi Gilroy
01:13:36
Speaking: Ben Allen, CDE
Jimi Gilroy
01:14:35
Question from: Chris Furgiuele, UC
Jimi Gilroy
01:14:49
Speaking: Ben Allen, CDE
Jimi Gilroy
01:15:15
Speaking: Joy Bonaguro, GovOps
Baron Rodriguez
01:15:36
Just a reminder from the tech/security perspective: Not all data in the data set will be longitudinal. It could be deceptive to put it in there.
Jimi Gilroy
01:16:44
Speaking: Ed Sullivan, CSU
Jimi Gilroy
01:17:43
Speaking: Amy Fong, CSIS
Carolyn Nealon
01:18:03
would reference to “interagency data” or “coordinated data” help hilight linkages?
Jimi Gilroy
01:18:22
Speaking: Jeanne Wolfe, DOL
Jimi Gilroy
01:18:50
Speaking: Joy Bonaguro, GovOps
Jimi Gilroy
01:19:58
Speaking: Chris Furgiuele, UC
Jimi Gilroy
01:20:26
Speaking: Joy Bonaguro, GovOps
A: Edward Sullivan
01:21:37
i think skills training fits bullet 2 as an addition
A: Joy Bonaguro
01:22:21
As in: social services, skills training
Samantha Tran
01:22:41
Would it work to say "equity gaps in opportunities and outcomes" in the second bullet? This could be a way to make an additional nod to the issues of systemic racism.
Jimi Gilroy
01:22:59
Speaking: Ben Allen, CDE
A: Sara Pietrowski
01:24:21
Good change
A: Joy Bonaguro
01:24:36
agreed!
A: Sarah Neville-Morgan
01:25:19
Love the opportunities addition as well! Of course - my branch is named Opportunities for All so I have a vested interest in highlighting equity as tied to opportunities.
Jimi Gilroy
01:26:09
Speaking: Jeanne Wolfe, DOL
Martha Friedrich
01:26:13
CALPADS has Career Tech Ed course completion while student is in high school and also collects work-based learning indicators
Jimi Gilroy
01:27:10
Speaking: Ben Allen, CDE
Monica Malhotra
01:27:14
"advanced training"
A: Joy Bonaguro
01:28:09
Skills training sounds more intervention / service
A: Jerry Winkler
01:29:14
Yeah
Tim Healy
01:30:47
can you show the proposed language?
A: Amy Fong
01:31:06
Thanks Kathy!
Jimi Gilroy
01:35:03
For members of the public, later this morning we will have breakout sessions by topic. Please let me know which group you would like to be assigned to as an observer from the list below. Those without a room assignment will be placed in the Zoom Guests room.Group One: New State AgencyGroup Two: Join Powers Agreement(JPA)Group Three: Nonprofit AuxiliaryGroup Four: Public Private Partnership
Jimi Gilroy
01:35:36
For today’s California Data System Workgroup meeting, the meeting materials including the Participant Agenda and the Background Paper can be found in the Meeting Materials link under the June 30, 2020 heading on our website on this page - https://cadatasystem.wested.org/meeting-information/workgroupThis meeting will be recorded for transcription and viewing purposes. By attending the meeting, you are consenting to have your audio and video comments recorded.
Jimi Gilroy
01:41:32
Previous comment from Cindy Kazanis, CDE
Jimi Gilroy
01:41:47
Question from Joy Bonaguro, GovOps
Jimi Gilroy
01:46:58
Speaking: Joy Bonaguro, GovOps
Jimi Gilroy
01:47:08
Speaking: Baron Rodriguez, WestEd
Jimi Gilroy
01:49:15
Speaking: Patrick Perry, CSAC
Jimi Gilroy
01:49:31
Speaking: Joy Bonaguro, GovOps
Jimi Gilroy
01:49:51
Speaking: Ed Sullivan, CSU
Jimi Gilroy
01:51:33
Speaking: Chris Furgiuele, UC
Jimi Gilroy
01:55:25
Speaking: Baron Rodriguez, WestEd
Jimi Gilroy
01:55:53
Question from Ben Allen, CDE
A: Joy Bonaguro
01:58:42
If it’s helpful - I created a mapping on race/ethnicity across systems as well that could be useful for the future.
Bruce Yonehiro
01:59:20
Why cant flagging be automated by the managing entity?
Jimi Gilroy
02:00:11
Question from Chris Furgiuele, UC
Jimi Gilroy
02:02:09
Speaking: Baron Rodriguez, WestEd
Jimi Gilroy
02:04:07
Sarah is the main member. Got it.
Jimi Gilroy
02:04:54
Disregard previous message. My apologies. Speaking: Chris Furgiuele, UC
Jimi Gilroy
02:06:23
Speaking: Baron Rodriguez, WestEd
Jimi Gilroy
02:08:31
Speaking: Joy Bonaguro, GovOps
A: Amy Fong
02:09:42
Kathy, when you talked about the option of partner entities adding more data or increasing the frequency of data added to the system and once a year being a floor not a ceiling, I want to make sure we are thoughtful in our resourcing/staffing recommendations as that can be quite a swing.
Jimi Gilroy
02:10:03
Speaking: Chris Furgiuele, UC
Jimi Gilroy
02:11:13
Speaking: Baron Rodriguez, WestEd
Colleen Moore
02:12:44
that's assuming the partner entities choose to be inclusive in what's put into the cloud repository
Jimi Gilroy
02:13:46
Speaking: Ed Sullivan, CSU
Jimi Gilroy
02:16:04
Speaking: Amy Fong, CSIS
Jimi Gilroy
02:18:01
Speaking: Patrick Perry, CSAC
Jimi Gilroy
02:18:39
Speaking: Joy Bonaguro, GovOps
Jimi Gilroy
02:19:06
Speaking: Chris Furgiuele, UC
Jimi Gilroy
02:20:08
Speaking: Baron Rodriguez, WestEd
Jimi Gilroy
02:20:45
Speaking: Thomas VU, AICCU
Jimi Gilroy
02:21:12
We will take a short break and we will be back at 11:10.
Jimi Gilroy
02:30:16
Speaking: Joy Bonaguro, GovOps
Jimi Gilroy
02:30:47
Question from Chris Furgiuele, UC
Rhegille Baltazar
02:45:02
Speaking: Elaine Scordakis, CHHS
Rhegille Baltazar
02:46:39
Speaking: Akhtar Khan, CDSS
Amy Supinger
02:46:46
Is the HHS option just presented being discussed in one of the groups?
Kathy Booth
02:47:01
yes-it will be discussed in the first group
Martha Friedrich
02:47:17
are staff dedicated to only work on the research hub or do they have other responsibilities in DHSS?
Kathy Booth
02:47:40
Please join group 1 f you'd like to hear more about this option
Jennifer Saha
03:09:01
hi! can you add me to the new state agency break out? thanks!
Allie Bollella
03:10:35
Took notes! Just sent an email
Jimi Gilroy
03:10:50
Speaking: Michele Perrault, CTC
Jimi Gilroy
03:15:08
Speaking: Patrick Perry, CSAC
Jimi Gilroy
03:18:19
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Jimi Gilroy
03:18:49
Question from Ed Sullivan, CSU
Jimi Gilroy
03:19:00
Speaking: Patrick Perry, CSAC
Jimi Gilroy
03:22:01
Speaking: Brenda Bridges Cruz, CDT
Jimi Gilroy
03:22:34
Speaking: Amy Supinger, Supinger Strategies
Jimi Gilroy
03:23:16
Speaking: Chris Furgiuele, UC
Jimi Gilroy
03:24:14
Speaking: Sara Pietrowski, State Board of Education
Jimi Gilroy
03:27:06
Speaking: Joy Bonaguro, GovOps
Rigel Spencer Massaro
03:28:25
could Joy repeat or chat out those criteria?
Jimi Gilroy
03:28:44
Speaking: Ben Chida, California Governor’s Office
LeAnn Fong-Batkin
03:29:37
Joy's list: 1) not sure ready to vote; 2) be clear on criteria to be selected—hiring flex, neutrality/optics; 3) durability; 4) admin complexity; 5) cost effectiveness.
Bruce Yonehiro
03:29:39
You should also consider impact of circumventing civil service with non-agency options.
A: Amy Fong
03:30:14
Thanks LeAnn!
A: Edward Sullivan
03:32:30
take off JPA and Auxilaries
A: Chris Furgiuele
03:32:38
I would remove auxilliary
A: Amy Fong
03:32:43
take off JPA
Amy Supinger
03:32:55
(I’m not a working group member), but I would take State Agency (in and of itself) off the table.
A: Imran Majid
03:33:04
I would disagree taking off JPA
A: Thomas Vu
03:33:54
i don’t think we’re ready to decide what to keep and what not to keep
Jimi Gilroy
03:34:14
Speaking: Patrick Perry, CSAC
A: Elaine Scordakis - CalOHII
03:34:42
Agree. I think a more thorough analysis of each option needs to be done to make an informed decision.
Jimi Gilroy
03:35:08
Speaking: Amy Fong, CSIS
A: Amy Faulkner
03:35:09
I agree with Patricl
Bruce Yonehiro
03:35:30
there are legal and political limitations on using non-civil service employees
A: Amy Faulkner
03:35:39
...Patrick's statement and Elaine's in the chat.
A: Ben Allen, California Department of Education
03:35:54
we should take off JPA & Auxilliary
Joy Bonaguro
03:37:39
Amy took the words from my mouth :-)
Jimi Gilroy
03:41:47
Speaking: Patrick Perry, CSAC
Jimi Gilroy
03:41:59
Speaking: Ben Allen, CDE
Jimi Gilroy
03:42:25
Speaking: Amy Fong, CSIS
Jimi Gilroy
03:42:47
Speaking: Chris Furgiuele, UC
Jimi Gilroy
03:45:21
Speaking: Ben Allen, CDE
Jimi Gilroy
03:46:32
Joy's list: 1) not sure if we are ready to vote; 2) be clear on criteria to be selected—hiring flexibility, neutrality/optics; 3) durability; 4) admin complexity; 5) cost effectiveness.
Joy Bonaguro
03:46:34
Hiring retention flexibility; neutrality; durability; admin complexity; cost effectiveness; adaptability; stickiness; oversight; independent
Jimi Gilroy
04:23:45
Speaking: Tom Vu, AICCU
Jimi Gilroy
04:28:09
Speaking: Baron Rodriguez, WestEd
Jimi Gilroy
04:30:40
Speaking: Elaine Scordakis, CHHS
Jimi Gilroy
04:31:28
Speaking: Sara Pietrowski, State Board of Education
Jimi Gilroy
04:31:55
Speaking: Baron Rodriguez, WestEd
Jimi Gilroy
04:35:19
Speaking: Tom Vu, AICCU
Jimi Gilroy
04:35:40
Question from Ed Sullivan, CSU
Baron Rodriguez
04:35:56
That would likely be legislation - Ed's Stick
Jimi Gilroy
04:36:09
Speaking: Chris Furgiuele, UC
Gavin Payne
04:37:11
To Baron’s point, I believe authorizing legislation could thread this needle.
Jimi Gilroy
04:37:14
Speaking: Baron Rodriguez, WestEd
Jimi Gilroy
04:41:01
Speaking: Baron Rodriguez, WestEd
A: Tom Vu
04:42:27
sorry, on the phone
Jimi Gilroy
04:43:18
.Speaking: Ed Sullivan, CSU
Jimi Gilroy
04:45:58
Speaking: Patrick Perry, CSAC
Baron Rodriguez
04:47:35
IF they entity contributing data wanted data back, the agreement would stipulate what type of data can be provided back, aggregate, deidentified, etc. That would be part of the agreement to participate.
Jimi Gilroy
04:47:43
Speaking: Joy Bonaguro, GovOps
Jimi Gilroy
04:51:27
Please let LeAnn Fong-Batkin know via private chat if you would like to participate in the Data Requests Homework Team.
Carolyn Nealon
04:52:21
will this include specifics re: PRA limitations?
Jimi Gilroy
04:53:08
Speaking: Chris Furgiuele, UC
Colleen Moore
04:54:13
just a reminder that replication of research is generally considered a good practice
Jimi Gilroy
04:55:13
Question from Ben Allen, CDE
Jimi Gilroy
05:01:08
https://caleprocure.ca.gov/event/75021/0000016738
A: Ben Allen, California Department of Education
05:01:22
Thank you for the link!
Jimi Gilroy
05:03:37
Thank you for attending. We appreciate all of your time and effort on this.